{"id":20370,"date":"2023-11-13T17:24:52","date_gmt":"2023-11-14T01:24:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/?p=20370"},"modified":"2023-11-13T17:24:52","modified_gmt":"2023-11-14T01:24:52","slug":"disconnects-about-the-economy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/2023\/11\/13\/disconnects-about-the-economy\/","title":{"rendered":"Disconnects about the Economy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There have been several articles recently about how, and why, economists think the economy is doing just fine, while ordinary people (voters) don&#8217;t. Why would this be? Are these ordinary people simply poisoned by partisan propaganda? Or is it something deeper? A couple substantial ideas show up, among four pieces examined here.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mediaproxy.salon.com\/width\/1200\/https:\/\/media.salon.com\/2023\/11\/joe_biden_1784130004.jpg\" width=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Salon, Kirk Swearingen, 13 Nov 2023<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.salon.com\/2023\/11\/13\/joe-bidens-economy-is-honestly-pretty-amazing-how-come-he-doesnt-get-credit\/\">Joe Biden&#8217;s economy is, honestly, pretty amazing: How come he doesn&#8217;t get credit?<\/a>, subtitled &#8220;Many voters claim Biden&#8217;s economy is bad and Trump&#8217;s was better. What fantasy version of America do they live in?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->This writer considers his own personal experience.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If the economy is so bad, why are shops and restaurants so packed?<\/p>\n<p>I understand that anecdotal evidence is hardly worth mentioning, but it does make you wonder if people are as concerned about the prices of goods and services as polling data says they are. As you stand in line at that restaurant or circle the mall parking lot looking for a space, do you wonder about the disparity between what people apparently tell pollsters about the economy and what you can see with your own two eyes?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Could this be part of the answer? People nowadays don&#8217;t know a truly bad economy looks like? (Does anyone alive now remember the Depression? Or the sacrifices people made during World War II?) Could be.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Biden\u2019s <em>bad<\/em> economy? What does that even mean? Never mind the lowest unemployment numbers in decades and the other telling economic data points: Just look around. Even the Murdoch-owned\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/money\/markets\/the-economy-is-great-why-are-americans-in-such-a-rotten-mood\/ar-AA1jcp1p\">Wall Street Journal acknowledges<\/a> how strong the economy has been under this president:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Not only has economic output made up all the ground lost during the pandemic but it is above where it would have been had the pandemic never happened, judging by what the Congressional Budget Office projected in early 2020.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So what gives? Why do so many people tell pollsters that they think Trump and the Republicans would do a better job with the economy when that has literally <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebalancemoney.com\/democrats-vs-republicans-which-is-better-for-the-economy-4771839\">never been true in my lifetime<\/a>? (When Republicans claim they\u2019re great with the economy, there must be a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2023\/nov\/06\/donald-trump-expected-to-appear-in-250m-civil-trial-in-new-york\">\u201cworthless statement clause\u201d<\/a> buried in the fine print.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Some good lines:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Republicans tell people what they long to hear, while Democrats are forever hamstrung by trying to tell people what they <i>need<\/i> to hear in order to function as responsible citizens in a democracy. But busy, overworked, stressed-out people don\u2019t want complexity, and most people have no abiding interest in politics. But they do crave neatly packaged explanations that blame their own problems, and the world\u2019s, on somebody else.<\/p>\n<p>So while Republican voters keep on complaining about the Biden economy, they also keep on consuming like mad. They don\u2019t like the higher prices of the last few years, which is understandable enough, and it doesn\u2019t matter to them that all industrialized countries saw similar rates of inflation during the post-pandemic recovery, or that the<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2023\/sep\/01\/joe-biden\/does-the-us-have-less-inflation-than-other-leading\/\"> inflation rate in the U.S has come down faster<\/a> than in most other countries.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>More good stuff &#8212; sharp observations &#8212; throughout.<\/p>\n<p>\\\\\\<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.theatlantic.com\/thumbor\/mf5dXHzqQPc3MM30cYbDTBXmoc4=\/0x0:2000x1125\/976x549\/media\/img\/mt\/2023\/11\/americans_better_off_2\/original.jpg\" width=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>The Atlantic, James Surowiecki, 10 Nov 2023<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/ideas\/archive\/2023\/11\/american-household-income-improvement-voter-sentiment\/675959\/\">Why Americans Can\u2019t Accept the Good Economic News<\/a>, subtitled &#8220;They\u2019re better off but not feeling it\u2014which could be a really big political problem.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAre you better off today than you were four years ago?\u201d That question, first posed by Ronald Reagan in a 1980 presidential-campaign debate with Jimmy Carter, has become the quintessential political question about the economy. And most Americans today, it seems, would say their answer is no. In a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bankrate.com\/personal-finance\/biden-economy-and-personal-finances-survey\/\" data-event-element=\"inline link\">new survey<\/a> by Bankrate published on Wednesday, only 21 percent of those surveyed said their financial situation had improved since Joe Biden was elected president in 2020, against 50 percent who said it had gotten worse. That echoed the results of an ABC News\/<i>Washington Post<\/i> poll from September, in which <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/2023\/09\/24\/biden-trump-poll-2024-election\/\" data-event-element=\"inline link\">44 percent<\/a> of those surveyed said they were worse off financially since Biden\u2019s election. And in a <i>New York Times<\/i>\/Siena College poll released last week, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2023\/11\/07\/us\/elections\/times-siena-battlegrounds-registered-voters.html\" data-event-element=\"inline link\">53 percent<\/a> of registered voters said that Biden\u2019s policies had hurt them personally.<\/p>\n<p>As has been much commented on (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/ideas\/archive\/2023\/07\/bidenomics-economic-pessimism\/674701\/\" data-event-element=\"inline link\">including by me<\/a>), this gloom is striking when contrasted with the actual performance of the U.S. economy, which grew at an annual rate of 4.9 percent in the most recent quarter, and which has seen unemployment holding below 4 percent for more than 18 months. But the downbeat mood is perhaps even more striking when contrasted with the picture offered by the Federal Reserve\u2019s recently released<a href=\"https:\/\/www.federalreserve.gov\/econres\/scfindex.htm\" data-event-element=\"inline link\"> Survey of Consumer Finances<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Concluding,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So, even allowing for the high inflation we saw in 2022, no one could really look at the U.S. economy today and say that the policy choices of the past three years made us poorer. Yet that, of course, is precisely how many Americans feel.<\/p>\n<p>Although that pessimism does not bode well for Biden\u2019s reelection prospects, the real problem with it is even more far-reaching: If voters think that policies that helped them actually hurt them, that makes it much less likely that politicians will embrace similar policies in the future. The U.S. got a lot right in its macroeconomic approach over the past three years. Too bad that voters think it got so much wrong.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\\\\\\<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2023\/11\/11\/multimedia\/09krugman1-ctpg\/09krugman1-ctpg-superJumbo.jpg\" width=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Paul Krugman, NY Times, 9 Nov 2023<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/11\/09\/opinion\/biden-economy-unemployment-history.html\">What History Tells Us About the Feel-Bad Economy<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Biden is not, in fact, presiding over a bad economy. On the contrary, the economic news has been remarkably good, and history helps explain why.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, many Americans tell pollsters that the economy is bad. Why? I don\u2019t think we really know; what we can say is that historical experience throws some cold water on one popular view about the sources of American discontent.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<br \/>\nThe simple reality of the past year or so is that America has accomplished what many, perhaps most, economists <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/11\/07\/opinion\/economists-disinflation-economy.html\">considered impossible<\/a>: a large fall in inflation without a recession or even a big rise in unemployment. If you don\u2019t trust me, listen to Goldman Sachs, which on Wednesday issued a <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dropbox.com\/scl\/fi\/iwcqpntzxlnrmgupec3xy\/Screen-Shot-2023-11-09-at-7.01.09-AM.png?rlkey=ebclagjkrpitiy2df7qyq4ke4&amp;dl=0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">report<\/a> titled \u201cThe Hard Part Is Over,\u201d noting that we\u2019re managing to combine rapid disinflation with solid growth, and that it expects this happy combination \u2014 the opposite of stagflation \u2014 to continue.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<br \/>\nYet voters aren\u2019t happy. The most widespread story I\u2019ve been hearing is that people don\u2019t care about the fact that prices have been leveling off; they\u2019re angry that prices <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/money\/2023\/11\/8\/23951098\/economy-inflation-prices-job-market-sticker-shock\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">haven\u2019t gone back<\/a> down to their prepandemic levels.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This makes some psychological sense, Krugman admits, but history does not support the idea.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This isn\u2019t the first time we\u2019ve seen a temporary surge in prices that leveled off but never went back down. The same thing happened after World War II and again during the <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/fred.stlouisfed.org\/graph\/fredgraph.png?g=1bav5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Korean War<\/a>, the latter surge being roughly the same size as what we\u2019ve seen since 2020. Unfortunately, we don\u2019t have consumer sentiment data for the 1940s, although <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.brendan-nyhan.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/the-misleading-story-of-harry-truman-and-the-do-nothing-congress.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">some political scientists<\/a> believe that the economy actually helped Harry Truman win his upset election victory in 1948. But we do have such data for the early 1950s, and it suggests that people were <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/fred.stlouisfed.org\/graph\/fredgraph.png?g=1bavw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">relatively upbeat<\/a> on the economy despite higher prices. Why should this time be different?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Also, it seems worth noting that many voters have <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2023\/sep\/15\/biden-economy-bidenomics-poll-republicans-democrats-independents\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">demonstrably false views<\/a> about the current economy \u2014 believing, in particular, that unemployment, which is near a 50-year low, is actually near a 50-year high.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>And he concludes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So what\u2019s actually going to happen in the next election? I have no idea, and neither do you. What I can say is that if you believe that Biden made huge, obvious economic policy mistakes and could easily have put himself in a much better position, you probably haven\u2019t thought this thing through.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And this resonates with my thinking: most people simply don&#8217;t pay close attention, or think things through. And social media, and the disinformation merchants, have undermined many people&#8217;s trust in &#8220;official&#8221; sources (of economic news, in this case), and have driven them into tribal allegiances divorced from reality.<\/p>\n<p>\\\\\\<\/p>\n<p>One more.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static01.nyt.com\/images\/2023\/11\/08\/opinion\/08coy-image\/08coy-image-superJumbo.jpg\" width=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>NY Times, Peter Coy, 8 Nov 2023<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/11\/08\/opinion\/economy-joe-biden-inflation.html\">Why Voters Are So Down on the Biden Economy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The theme here, again, is that economists and ordinary people use the same terms to talk about different things. Also, the example the writer provides suggests how Republicans, as they pursue their culture wars, may be losing voters who resent attention to such matters.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Economists, meet Sara. She is in her early 50s, white, an office manager who lives in South Carolina and a Republican who is unenthusiastic about Donald Trump. When she thinks about the direction of the country right now, what she\u2019s most worried about is the economy. And whom does she blame for the economy?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"css-1ggt3fz etf134l0\">\n<p class=\"css-12wzsk6 evys1bk0\">Politicians in Washington, D.C., collectively. They have lost sight of how we live and work as middle-class people. We can give free Narcan to whoever we want to in the parking lot of McDonald\u2019s because they\u2019re OD\u2019ing, but we cannot get diabetic medication to those kids who did not choose to be diabetic. People are losing their jobs and can\u2019t afford health care, and you\u2019re going to legislate whether or not somebody can read a book?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">There is a lot to unpack in that angry paragraph, which came from a focus group, convened in September by Times Opinion, of 13 Republican voters who are looking at candidates other than Trump. (More of their responses <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2023\/09\/26\/opinion\/non-trump-gop-focus-group.html\">here<\/a>.) On diabetic medication, for example, there\u2019s actually good news. The Inflation Reduction Act <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/briefing-room\/statements-releases\/2023\/03\/02\/fact-sheet-president-bidens-cap-on-the-cost-of-insulin-could-benefit-millions-of-americans-in-all-50-states\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">capped<\/a> the cost of insulin for Medicare recipients at $35 a month. Lilly, Novo Nordisk and Sanofi have <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/diabetes.org\/tools-resources\/affordable-insulin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cut prices<\/a> for patients of all ages.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But the part I want to focus on is what Sara and other Americans who aren\u2019t economists mean when they use terms like economy, inflation and unemployment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It\u2019s often not what economists mean. And I think the differences in perspective go a long way toward explaining why President Biden <a class=\"css-yywogo\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/11\/06\/business\/dealbook\/biden-economy-trump-2024.html\">receives such poor marks<\/a> on the economy despite strong growth in the country\u2019s gross domestic product, as well as low unemployment and falling inflation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The writer goes on with examples of this disconnect. Also this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Pollsters have long observed that voters who are unhappy in general will tend to express unhappiness in every answer, and not attempt to make fine distinctions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Trump may also be benefiting from rose-colored hindsight. More voters have a favorable impression of Trump\u2019s overall record now (48 percent) than they did when he left office (38 percent), according to the ABC News\/Washington Post poll.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A close-term example of the rose-colored past, that some imaginary utopia once existed that we should all return to. Things were better when my side won!<\/p>\n<p>And<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As for the decline in inflation that Biden brags about: Only 38 percent said they believed the official statistics, against 62 percent who didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>That disbelief says a lot. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s entirely a measure of distrust in the statistical agencies. I think it\u2019s deeper than that. People are saying that, for whatever reason, prices went up. And they\u2019re saying they can\u2019t make ends meet. Anyone who tries to tell them that inflation has fallen is going to be ignored, or worse. Which means the incumbent president is in a bad spot.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\\\\\\<\/p>\n<p>The grand theme here is that as the world has become more complex &#8212; over past centuries, and past decades since the 1960s for various reasons &#8212; more and more people deny or reject that complexity and retreat into fictitious simplicity. Which authoritarians, like Trump, who divide the world into black and white, provide.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There have been several articles recently about how, and why, economists think the economy is doing just fine, while ordinary people (voters) don&#8217;t. Why would this be? Are these ordinary people simply poisoned by partisan propaganda? Or is it something &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/2023\/11\/13\/disconnects-about-the-economy\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[90,34,54],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20370","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conservatives","category-economics","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20370","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20370"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20370\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20373,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20370\/revisions\/20373"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20370"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20370"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20370"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}