{"id":2789,"date":"2015-08-25T17:29:00","date_gmt":"2015-08-26T00:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/?p=2789"},"modified":"2020-10-18T11:52:20","modified_gmt":"2020-10-18T18:52:20","slug":"links-and-comments-dated-sf-puppygate-summaries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/2015\/08\/25\/links-and-comments-dated-sf-puppygate-summaries\/","title":{"rendered":"Links and Comments: Dated and Offensive SF; Puppygate summaries"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Will get back to posting about rereading Isaac Asimov shortly, but an initial comment I have is how embarrassing Asimov&#8217;s prose of the early 1940s was. I suppose it was the style of the era, and Asimov did grow out of it. Examples in my Asimov post. But it resonates with this:<\/p>\n<p>Barnes &#038; Noble: Jeff Somers on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.barnesandnoble.com\/blog\/sci-fi-fantasy\/8-dated-science-fiction-novels-that-are-still-essential-reading\/\">8 Dated Science Fiction Novels That Are Still Essential Reading<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Re: Asimov, Somers notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nAlthough the scale of information dealt with is immense (the plot concerns the preservation of&nbsp;the sum total of human knowledge through a technological Dark Age), it\u2019s somehow all stored on <i>microfilm<\/i>, and computers are basically depicted as larger versions of the 1950s-era machines Asimov was familiar with.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This entire piece suggests an intriguing paradox: the history of science fiction, being a history of often overtaken visions of the future, is as much a history of the past as it is a history of increasingly progressive visions of the future.<\/p>\n<p>\\\\<\/p>\n<p>Also relevant is this New Statesman piece by Liz Lutgendorff, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newstatesman.com\/culture\/2015\/08\/i-read-100-best-fantasy-and-sci-fi-novels-and-they-were-shockingly-offensive\">I read the 100 \u201cbest\u201d fantasy and sci-fi novels &#8211; and they were shockingly offensive<\/a>. The list she read was compiled by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2011\/08\/11\/139085843\/your-picks-top-100-science-fiction-fantasy-books\">NPR<\/a> in 2011 by <i>popular vote<\/i>, which especially reveals nostalgia for older &#8220;classics&#8221;.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nNostalgia permeates the list. Of the books I read, there were more books published before 1960 than after 2000. The vast majority were published in the 1970s and 1980s. There were also many sci-fi masterworks or what were groundbreaking novels. However, groundbreaking 30, 40, 50 or 100 years ago can now seem horribly out of date and shockingly offensive.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, the very fact that a modern reader has such reactions is evidence of the arc of moral progress \u2014the greater inclusion of classes that were ignored or take for granted a century ago &#8212; in society in general, and of course in science fiction, which can&#8217;t help but reflect the social standards of the time when it was written.<\/p>\n<p>\\\\<\/p>\n<p>Several good summaries of the Hugo Awards results and the Puppygate kerfuffle at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/08\/won-science-fictions-hugo-awards-matters\/\">Wired<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/boingboing.net\/2015\/08\/23\/sad-puppies-rabid-puppies-los.html\">Boing Boing<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/speakeasy\/2015\/08\/23\/no-puppy-love-at-science-fictions-hugo-awards\/\">Wall Street Journal<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/future_tense\/2015\/08\/25\/ray_bradbury_s_fbi_file_offers_a_new_perspective_on_puppygate_s_failure.html\">Slate<\/a>. The last item, by Jacob Brogan, is &#8220;What Ray Bradbury\u2019s FBI File Teaches Us About Science Fiction\u2019s Latest Controversies&#8221;.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThough Bradbury\u2019s files speak to his commercial success, they offer no suggestion that it was driven by the introduction of any ideology, a communist one least of all. Instead, they show that his work was capable of upsetting established dogmas of many kinds. His <em><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/006207993X\/?tag=slatmaga-20\">Martian Chronicles<\/a><\/em>, for example, feature the &#8220;repeated theme that earthmen are despoilers and not developers.&#8221; Elsewhere, the documents note\u2014\u201cwithout irony,\u201d as MuckRock\u2019s JPat Brown <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.muckrock.com\/news\/archives\/2015\/aug\/24\/ray-bradbury-fbi-file\/\">puts it<\/a>\u2014that Russian authorities had banned \u201cThe Fireman,\u201d an early version of Bradbury\u2019s <em><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/1451673310\/?tag=slatmaga-20\">Fahrenheit 451<\/a><\/em>.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nAs Amy Wallace explains in her <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/08\/won-science-fictions-hugo-awards-matters\/\">thorough account<\/a> of the saga in <em>Wired<\/em>, the Puppies\u2019 leaders claim they\u2019re trying to bring SF back to simpler times. Pushing back against what they perceive as an elitist wave of liberal propaganda, they claim they \u201cwant sci-fi to be less preachy and more fun.\u201d The Puppies\u2019 brand of \u201cless preachy and more fun\u201d conservatism includes reactionary misogyny, homophobia, and racism, as Wallace and others have documented. At core, however, the Puppy movement was a call for a return to an imagined childhood\u2014perhaps that of the genre, perhaps that of its readers. &#8230; Much as they might whine to the contrary, the Puppies aren\u2019t angry about what science fiction has become\u2014they\u2019re uncomfortable with <em>what it has always been<\/em>. Science fiction has always made us imagine the world differently.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>An earlier piece at Yes! Magazine, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.yesmagazine.org\/peace-justice\/sad-puppies-2015-hugo-awards-20150814\">Sad Puppies, Rabid Chauvinists: Will Raging White Guys Succeed in Hijacking Sci-Fi\u2019s Biggest Awards?<\/a>, includes links to and excerpts from the writings of the ringleaders, including John C. Wright on proper gender roles and Theodore Beale on Blue SF vs Pink SF.<\/p>\n<p>\\\\\\<\/p>\n<p>Ironically, a significant early Asimov story that betrays those pulpish prose patterns alluded to above, &#8220;Reason&#8221;, is included in the relatively modern <b>The Wesleyan Anthology of Science Fiction<\/b>, published in 2010. Useful link: <a href=\"http:\/\/sfanthology.site.wesleyan.edu\/files\/2010\/12\/FullGuide.pdf\">Teacher\u2019s Guide for The Wesleyan Anthology of Science Fiction<\/a>, a 66-page PDF guide including, beginning page 33, &#8220;Discussion Questions&#8221; for each story in the book, e.g. for Asimov, <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n1. Is QT\u2019s logic reasonable? Why or why not?<br \/>\n2. Robots are not supposed to experience emotions, yet QT often seems to do so. Also, the three laws of robotics mandate obedience to human beings, yet QT seems to flout these laws. How do you account for this apparent contradiction?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Also lots of Resource links&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\\\\\\<\/p>\n<p>One more item about China and SF:<\/p>\n<p>Vox: Ezra Klein, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vox.com\/2015\/8\/24\/9196945\/china-science-fiction\">How Google convinced China&#8217;s Communist Party to love science fiction<\/a>. He recounts a story from Neil Gaiman&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newstatesman.com\/2015\/05\/neil-gaiman-kazuo-ishiguro-interview-literature-genre-machines-can-toil-they-can-t-imagine\">conversation<\/a> with Kazuo Ishiguro about genre fiction. The Chinese realized that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThey were making things incredibly well but they weren\u2019t inventing. And they\u2019d gone to America and interviewed the people at Google and Apple and Microsoft, and talked to the inventors, and discovered that in each case, when young, they\u2019d read science fiction. That was why the Chinese had decided that they were going to officially now approve of science fiction and fantasy.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Will get back to posting about rereading Isaac Asimov shortly, but an initial comment I have is how embarrassing Asimov&#8217;s prose of the early 1940s was. I suppose it was the style of the era, and Asimov did grow out &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/2015\/08\/25\/links-and-comments-dated-sf-puppygate-summaries\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50,41,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2789","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-human-progress","category-morality","category-science-fiction"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2789","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2789"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2789\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2793,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2789\/revisions\/2793"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2789"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2789"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2789"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}