{"id":444,"date":"2013-11-25T20:17:55","date_gmt":"2013-11-26T04:17:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/?p=444"},"modified":"2020-10-18T11:59:23","modified_gmt":"2020-10-18T18:59:23","slug":"ineffability-god-thereof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/2013\/11\/25\/ineffability-god-thereof\/","title":{"rendered":"Ineffability, God thereof"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Another Andrew Sullivan post on The Dish&#8211; a few days ago, <a href=\"http:\/\/dish.andrewsullivan.com\/2013\/11\/24\/of-gods-god-and-men\/\">this<\/a>, via Aidan Kimel and Herbert McCabe:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod must be incomprehensible to us precisely because he is creator of all that is and, as Aquinas puts it, outside the order of all beings. God therefore cannot be classified as any kind of being. God cannot be compared to or contrasted with other things in respect of what they are like as dogs can be compared and contrasted with cats and both of them with stones or stars. God is not an inhabitant of the universe; he is the reason why there is a universe at all.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;and so on. <\/p>\n<p>Today, readers <a href=\"http:\/\/dish.andrewsullivan.com\/2013\/11\/25\/of-gods-god-and-men-ctd\/\">bristle<\/a>, in several comments, e.g.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nYou have to be kidding. \u201cWe don\u2019t know what God is\u201d has got to be just about the most unintentionally hilarious statement about religion I have ever heard. For the longest time, atheists have been trying to make the point that the concept of God as defined in every faith is impossible. The concept of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omni-benevolent deity is self-contradictory using elementary logic.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Presumably the purpose of this is to move the argument away from where atheism is succeeding on the merits \u2013 pointing out the logical inconsistencies of religious belief \u2013 into more favorable and murky territory. \u201cRichard Dawkins get it wrong, because our God isn\u2019t like all those other gods. Because we say so.\u201d This is utter piffle, unworthy of you or your blog.<\/p>\n<p>Every religion ascribes the very existence of the universe to their deity or deities. Otherwise they wouldn\u2019t be gods. Saying \u201cGod is in everything\u201d is meaningless. It doesn\u2019t change the fact that religious belief is based on pure faith and nothing else.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Several other worthy responses.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Another Andrew Sullivan post on The Dish&#8211; a few days ago, this, via Aidan Kimel and Herbert McCabe: God must be incomprehensible to us precisely because he is creator of all that is and, as Aquinas puts it, outside the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/2013\/11\/25\/ineffability-god-thereof\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-444","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/444","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=444"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/444\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":446,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/444\/revisions\/446"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=444"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=444"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.markrkelly.com\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=444"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}