Josh Barro

Just became aware of reporter and (Republican, gay) commentator Josh Barro, triggered by news that he’s leaving Business Insider for the New York Times, though it turns out I’d read a piece by him before a few weeks back: There Are Two Americas, And One Is Better Than The Other.

Today came across a series of posts from around the same time (last December) in which he specifically addressed Phil Robertson, and why he doesn’t sweat the “haters”.

This is Why Phil Robertson is Wrong About the Gays
When You Defend Phil Robertson Here’s What You’re Really Defending
Here’s Why I Don’t Sweat the Haters

My inbox is full of “love the sinner, hate the sin” defenses of Robertson’s 2013 remarks. But Robertson doesn’t love gay people. He thinks they’re, well, “full of murder.” His views on gays are hateful, inasmuch as they are full of hate.

As a side note, it’s remarkable how often these things come as a package. Robertson’s sincere doctrinal view about the sinfulness of homosexuality comes packaged with animus toward gays and retrograde views about blacks and non-Christians. It’s almost as though social conservatism is primarily fueled by a desire to protect the privileges of what was once a straight, white Christian in-group, rather than by sincere religious convictions.

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A Better World

Jerry Coyne links this item at Prospect by Daniel Dennet: If I ruled the world.

His prescription for a better world: educate the children.

I would like my first step on ascending to the dictatorship to be decreeing high quality, non-ideological education for boys and girls in every community on the globe. If we could just liberate the world’s children from illiteracy, ignorance, and superstition, their curiosity would lead them to solutions that were both locally informed and sensitive while also tuned to a fairly realistic view of the global context into which these solutions must fit.

But he admits this can never work. Because: parents.

The disastrous attempts to separate children from their families in the recent past in order to give them ‘proper’ educations should convince us that there is simply no way of imposing an educational system on children in different cultures against their will and the will of their elders that isn’t both inhumane and ineffective. Notice that I did not say that knowledge should never be imposed on people. If it were effective, if it ‘took’ readily enough, I would be as much in favour of imposing knowledge on children as I am of imposing vaccination on them. We’re all in this world together, and benighted attitudes don’t put only the benighted at risk.

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Debates about Science, Creationism, Accommodationism

Slate: The Myths of Anti-Creationism

This is the latest round in a fascinating debate in recent days between William Saletan of Slate and Sean McElwee in Salon. Can you be a creationist and also be a scientist? McElwee says no; to be a creationist to have made up one’s mind and become committed to a particular belief despite the evidence, and thereby resistant to any possible additional evidence. That is not science, which is always provisional and open to new evidence.

Saletan disagrees, basically on practical grounds. The fact of the matter is that millions of people in the US (and a couple other countries, like Turkey) believe the world was created just some 10,000 years ago – despite, or most likely in benign ignorance of, mountains of evidence indicating otherwise – and yet manage to lead functional lives as office workers, engineers, lawyers, even doctors. But probably not as scientists.

(There’s an interesting sidebar about whether creationist beliefs are related to myths about vaccines. Wouldn’t be surprised.)

I would say in principle McElwee is right – a creationist scientist’s thought processes should be suspect – but in practice Saletan is probably right. Creationism is just one example of how religious ideas continue to flourish: people compartmentalize their religious beliefs away from the necessarily rational means they must have to engage the world on a daily basis. You can work a job, raise kids, live and die, and never care about what the evidence indicates about the size of the universe, the age of the earth, or the mysteries of quantum mechanics. Creationism is just one example, of many many, religious beliefs about the world without a shred of real world evidence in their support. To most people, that doesn’t matter. To a scientist, it *should* matter.

There’s a parallel debate recently about ‘accommodationism’ between Jerry Coyne and others, including Phil Plait. This is about whether, at any level, science and religion are compatible. As with the above debate, they’re both probably right, but within different contexts; but I’m not exploring that issue here.

Coincidentally, today, here is a new essay by a real scientist, Sam Harris, who is actively interested in new evidence and open to changing his mind:

The Pleasure of Changing My Mind

Because,

I don’t want to be wrong for a moment longer than I have to be.

Also coincidentally, physicist Sean Carroll is about to participate in a debate, tonight, with Christian apologist William Lane Craig, about God and cosmology. I doubt I’ll have a chance to watch it, but I’m sure the best bits will be posted and blogged around the web.

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Wishful Thinking vs What We Know About How the World Works

Physicist Sean Carroll’s site is always interesting to dip into – he has a long list of posts from the past decade under his ‘Greatest Hits’ tab – and here is one from 2011 about Physics and the Immortality of the Soul.

This is an iconic example of the difference between what most people believe, or feel, and what the evidence of the world tells us if we bother to think about it.

Given what we do understand about rocks and planets and dairy products and the Solar System, it’s absurd to imagine that the Moon is made of green cheese. We know better.

We also know better for life after death, although people are much more reluctant to admit it. Admittedly, “direct” evidence one way or the other is hard to come by — all we have are a few legends and sketchy claims from unreliable witnesses with near-death experiences, plus a bucketload of wishful thinking. But surely it’s okay to take account of indirect evidence — namely, compatibility of the idea that some form of our individual soul survives death with other things we know about how the world works.

Claims that some form of consciousness persists after our bodies die and decay into their constituent atoms face one huge, insuperable obstacle: the laws of physics underlying everyday life are completely understood, and there’s no way within those laws to allow for the information stored in our brains to persist after we die. If you claim that some form of soul persists beyond death, what particles is that soul made of? What forces are holding it together? How does it interact with ordinary matter?

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The Passing of Blind Obedience to Decaying Creeds

Traditional religionists are in panic, it seems, from advances in social policy concerning same-sex marriage (which we proponents call “marriage equality”) and other things like legal euthanasia (is your right to die your decision – or the government’s?). Here is Adam Lee summarizing this issue, and by the way challenging a rival blogger who had mentioned his earlier post (without linking it) and then deleted comments concerning it, rather than posting a public response.

Clearly, religious apologists feel the world, which they once thought they owned, is slipping away from them; that they’re losing their privileged status as the sole arbiters of morality. You can understand their anger and desperation in this light.

Naturally, the apologists are eager to cast this as a rebellion against goodness itself. The truth is that their view, which is based on blind obedience to decaying creeds, is being replaced with something better: a morality that’s based on reasoned debate and human well-being. The churches and their advocates still command significant power, but they can no longer just assert that something is God’s will and expect to receive deference. If that prospect frightens and upsets them, perhaps it’s because they don’t have any backup arguments to offer.

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Prothero and Vick on that debate

Donald Prothero summarizes the Nye-Ham debate.

http://www.skepticblog.org/2014/02/12/hearts-and-minds/

Tristan Vick explains why he didn’t watch the debate, but sides with those who think it was a good idea.

http://www.advocatusatheist.blogspot.jp/2014/02/why-i-didnt-watch-bill-nye-vs-ken-ham.html

We have to debate Creationists, if anything, to share the accumulated information, the bulwark of human knowledge, and give them something tangible to think about. Otherwise, how will they ever learn anything? They are all trapped inside massive echo chambers of faith.

He also notes that the questions the Creationists asked weren’t serious inquiries.

These Creationists weren’t curious to know how or why things work in the world. They merely wanted to know how their religious beliefs could be considered wrong by those who thought and felt differently. Every single one of the 22 questions posted reflect back on how they perceive their cherished beliefs, beliefs they cling to, it had nothing to do with them wanting to learn about this or that thing or some such as it relates to the real world.

That’s the big reason their version of the way they see the world simply will not last. Because their version doesn’t wish to concern itself with the way the world really is. There is a detachment here, and this lack of curiosity, this lack of desire to understand, will cause them to fall behind the curve of progress and eventually they will have no choice but to leave their failed beliefs behind or adapt them into something new, something most likely bizarre, in order to stand the test of time.

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How God Works

No One Cares About Your Damn Religion

Have you ever noticed how God always agrees with you? Not as often with your neighbor, your congressman, your family or even the pope. But he (or she, or it,) definitely agrees with you. Other people just aren’t enlightened enough to realize that. Yet.

Funny how that works.

Was the Christian God cool with slavery? Slave owners sure thought so — and had plenty of Biblical canon to support it. Abolitionists disagreed. Did God want women to vote? Not according to anti-suffragists. Suffragists were convinced otherwise. If society continues this descent into level-headed compassion, fifty years from now people will be claiming that God is pro-fur and factory farming. When one cannot defend a belief in the current context, moving the framework back a few thousand years and putting the blame on God is a pretty good fallback strategy.

Long examination of how the faithful cherry-pick their holy book to justify their prejudices. Obvious, but needs to be said, and said again.

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Sam Family Values

The father of Michael Sam, the potential NFL player who came out as gay this week, is apparently more upset by his son’s coming out as gay than by his earlier sons having died or ending up in jail.

William Saletan: Michael Sam’s Family Values

But here’s one prediction you can bet on: The family he builds as a gay man will be better than the “old school” family he grew up in. It won’t just be more tolerant. It will be more principled, better organized, and more useful to society. The next time you hear somebody talk about “family values,” remember that.

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Conservative values

It’s long been my impression that conservatives, especially of the extreme Tea Party variety, are motivated largely by fear – of the unknown, of the ‘other’ (people unlike themselves), of the implications of rational engagement with the real world. And so they retreat to the supposed wisdom of the ancients, holy books and Founding Fathers. Us vs them. Conspiracy theories.

Tea Party’s fringe isolation: How a conspiracist mind-set poses long-term electoral danger

In all these areas, a conspiracist mind-set can be observed: The problem is a morally suspect out-group, being coddled and encouraged by big bad government, which is trying to destroy America, because of Evil. … the more vehemently they reject contrary evidence and arguments, the less open to honest discussion and dialogue they appear, the more powerful the evidence is that a close-minded conspiracist outlook is at work, with a chillingly narrow predetermined cast of heroes and villains.

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Natural Selection; Family Values

The trouble with ‘Darwin Day’ is that, it’s not about one guy, as evolutionary biologist Rob Brooks explains.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-brooks/darwin-day_b_4770363.html

It irks me the way Nye, and others who engage with creationists, allow the likes of Ham to call evolution “Darwinism”, and those who can comprehend natural selection and the overwhelming evidence for it “Darwinists”. An over-reliance on Darwin as our standard-bearer diminishes a broad and vibrant science, giving the impression it begins and ends with a guy who was born over 200 years ago. I believe the creationists and their dullard adherents go further, implying that one white-bearded gentleman is somehow being slyly substituted for another; Darwin supplanting God.

The beauty of an idea like natural selection is that it is true, whether or not you choose to believe it. It is true, even if nobody has yet had the idea or written it down. If Darwin hadn’t done so, Alfred Russell Wallace’s version might have swayed the Victorians. Or perhaps a version discovered some 50 years later.

Humanity owes a great debt to Darwin, and the history of science followed the course that it did because of him. But he isn’t the reason for the season; science does not need deities and messiahs. Darwin was merely the guy who figured it all out first…

Also today, an interesting essay by Will Saletan on Michael Sam and “family values”.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/saletan/2014/02/12/michael_sam_s_father_shows_gay_men_can_have_better_family_values_than_straight.html.

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