Sophisticated Theology, Proofs of God, Humanism, Religious Persecution, Morality

I got the book! You know, the one with the best arguments for God

Jerry Coyne lists books to read before criticizing atheism (just as theists keep issuing books about the ‘best’ arguments for god which they insists atheists must read before drawing any conclusions). Coyne, as I’ve mentioned before, actually reads books by those whom he slightly mocks as “sophisticated theologiansTM” and responds in detail in occasional posts on his blog.

In contrast, most religious people never concern themselves with such sophisticated arguments.

An Awful List of ’7 Things That Prove God Is Real’

People impressed by these arguments are very easily impressed.

Here are four great videos by Stephen Fry about Humanism, and how we know what’s true:

https://humanism.org.uk/thatshumanism/

And here’s a nice quote about what religious persecution really means:

America’s Right-Wing Has Gone Gay Crazy

Religious persecution is the maltreatment of an individual or group because of their religious beliefs. The Holocaust is one example. Shia versus Sunni violence in Iraq is another. Despite what Fox News, the Christian Right and the Republican Party will have you believe, religious persecution is not government refusing to grant Christians the ability to persecute others.

And finally for tonight, Jerry Coyne on that survey about whether people need to believe in ‘God’ to be moral.

Must you be religious to be moral?: A worldwide survey, and its lesson

[T]he primary reason for abject child poverty in … Southern states is that more than a third of children have parents who lack secure employment, decent wages and healthcare. But thanks to religion, these poor saps vote for the party that rejects Medicaid expansion, opposes early education expansion, legislates larger cuts to education, and slashes food stamps to make room for oil and agriculture subsidies on top of tax cuts and loopholes for corporations and the wealthy. Essentially, the Republican Party has convinced tens of millions of Southerners that a vote for a public display of the Ten Commandments is more important to a Christians’ needs than a vote against cuts in education spending, food stamp reductions, the elimination of school lunches and the abolition of healthcare programs.

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Same-sex marriage, Context, and the Pursuit of Happiness

Some comments tonight about gay marriage, prompted, as most of my posts are, by online articles and debates. For the past couple of weeks there have been back and forth articles on Slate, The Atlantic, and the New York Times, between William Saletan, Nathaniel Frank, Mark Joseph Stern, and Ross Douthat (with commentary by Andrew Sullivan at his blog), about whether one can disapprove of gay marriage without being ‘homophobic’, and in what way same-sex marriage is analogous or not to interracial marriage. (It’s a sign of the times that only extreme right-wing websites are still posting tracts against the idea of same-sex marriage as a sign of western civilization’s imminent collapse, or an imminent cause of God’s wrath. See Right Wing Watch for almost daily links to such sites and tracts.)

I don’t have anything to contribute to this debate, necessarily, except context: as a gay man in my ‘50s, I’ve lived my entire life with the idea that ‘marriage’ is an institution for conventional heterosexual people, all about raising children and maintaining lines of inheritance, and I’ve been comfortable for my entire life not being conventional (in many ways). Even having been now in a long-term [gay] relationship for nearly 13 years. My partner and I registered for a California domestic partnership in December 2012, but frankly we did so for pragmatic reasons – I was laid off from my job, with health insurance only for a few months of severance, and my partner’s company being among the many with progressive benefit policies, he was able to enroll me in his company’s health plan as a domestic partner. Even so, I’m sure he deeply appreciated the implicit commitment that a domestic partnership indicated. Yet I doubt we will ever get formally ‘married’, mainly for personal reasons involving his relationship with his family in China. (Though it will be interesting if California follows Washington State’s plan to automatically convert all domestic partnerships into legal marriages. We could find ourselves married without having planned to do so!)

And, keying to the blog’s ultimate theme… I grew up reading science fiction novels by Ursula K. Le Guin and Samuel R. Delany and others, many of which were about unconventional family and sexual relationships. Nothing shocks me. –Except perhaps for the pace at which the idea of same-sex marriage has advanced in many countries worldwide, even in the religion-besotted United States of America. It was unthinkable even 20 years ago. Offhand I would attribute the advance of this idea to the interconnection of worldly ideas through the internet. It is becoming more and more difficult for ideologically rigid groups to shield themselves from the outside world of other ideas.

Anyway – tonight’s post is inspired by the latest round of this online debate about same-sex marriage, from William Saletan in Slate: The Arc of History.

Saletan quotes an earlier installment of the debate by Nathaniel Frank:

Moral positions evolve as new information and possibilities become available. And for all the incessant moralizing of the right wing over the last 50 years, the sin of current opponents of gay marriage is an unwillingness to open their minds to change. There comes a time when there’s only one morally correct answer, and the space for having the wrong answer has dried up. I’d argue that time has come.

Saletan responds,

This is a beautiful paragraph. I agree with most of it, right up to the point where Frank says opponents of gay marriage haven’t changed. In fact, they’ve changed enormously. On every question, from sodomy laws to job discrimination to marriage, antigay politicians and activists have lost public support. The fact they’re now fighting over same-sex marriage, an idea that was once politically absurd, underscores their retreat. People who would have equated homosexuality with pedophilia 50 years ago have come to accept domestic partnerships or civil unions. Too many gay people have come out. The myths and fears have lost too much credibility. The culture is changing.

“Moral positions evolve as new information and possibilities become available.” This is the essence of what I think of as progress: the expansion of possibilities. Gay marriage provides an opportunity for “the pursuit of happiness” for many people who before never had that option – some 5% of the population, given current estimates. With no negative consequences except for the bruised presumptions of religious folks offended that their standards for living are not writ into law to be enforced upon everyone.

This post provides occasion to link and quote to something I bookmarked many months ago – a year and a half ago, I see. It is a comment to a post by Dan Savage about the gay marriage issue. The anonymous commentator said this:

As soon as marriage stopped being about the inheritance of property, the production of children and the perpetuation of the legalized subjugation of women, and started to be about two equals coming together out of love and attraction, that’s when the “slippery slope” to marriage equality began. And since this all happened when gays were still in the closet, it is we straights who did it. Marriage became about emotions, and once that happened, you can no longer say your emotions are superior to someone else’s and that they can’t have the same rights and privileges as you do.

Needless to say, anyone who thinks history or religion has always implicitly endorsed the one man one woman ‘ideal’ of marriage hasn’t read history, or even the Bible.

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S. T. Joshi Work Habits; The Only Common-Sense Position

Thinking about this topic of work habits lately, and so keyed on this passage, from this New York Times profile of S.T. Joshi, H.P. Lovecraft scholar and atheist/agnostic writer.

Mr. Joshi does not teach, and he rarely lectures. For money, he writes. He keeps to a rigorous schedule, working every day from about 9 to 5, scheduling periodic breaks for refreshment. “I am sort of a tea addict,” he said. “I structure my day by cups of tea. If you don’t enforce that kind of discipline as a freelancer, you won’t get anything done.”

The article also has this passage, after mentioning academic ‘amateurs’ like Christopher Hitchins, Sam Harris, and James Randi and the illusionists Penn and Teller:

Perhaps because many academic philosophers take atheism to be a given, the only common-sense position, it is left to these quirky, freelance amateurs, with their large cabinets of obsessions, to make the public case against God.

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Changing My Mind

Here is something I’ve changed my mind about, recently, based on the evidence.

I used to think you could appeal to the rationality in any person, present evidence and establish a chain of reasoning, and cause a person to change their mind about something. This apparently is not true. (I’ve posted a couple other items on this theme recently.)

Salon: From creationism to ESP: Why believers ignore science.

This is a review of a book by Will Storr called The Unpersuadables: Adventures with the Enemies of Science, in which the author, as he interviews various adherents of creationism, homeopathy, Holocaust denial, and so on, finding them immune to evidence and reason, increasingly finds himself doubting his own convictions; despite feeling firm in his intellectual convictions, he also knows that he is bound to be wrong about some of them. How to resolve this? Interesting essay.

(My answer: By not taking positions on topics one has not studied. [See passage from Sam Harris (scroll down) that I linked this past week.] And in areas one does have familiarity with the subject matter, by being aware of the brain’s psychological biases, and applying scientific reasoning. And being prepared to change one’s mind.)

The same theme is invoked by Peter Boghossian in his new book. He says the first thing to do in trying to persuade someone out of their rote faith is to forget about presenting evidence. It’s more about challenging a believer to question the basis for their faith. More on this when I finish reading his book.

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Evolutionary Politics

Fascinating. Via Andrew Sullivan’s summary at

Political Biology

Chris Mooney looks at a book by Avi Tuschman about evolutionary accounts of politics—

Conservatives, he suggests in one of three interrelated evolutionary accounts of the origins of politics, are a modern reflection of an evolutionary impulse that leads some of us to seek to control sexual reproduction and keep it within a relatively homogenous group. This naturally makes today’s conservatives more tribal and in-group oriented; if tribalism does anything, it makes it clear who you are and aren’t supposed to mate with.

Tuschman’s liberals, in contrast, are a modern reflection of an evolutionary impulse to take risks, and thereby pull in more genetic diversity through outbreeding. This naturally makes today’s liberals more exploratory and cosmopolitan, just as the personality tests always suggest. Ultimately, Tuschman bluntly writes, it all comes down to “different attitudes toward the transmission of DNA.” And if you want to set these two groups at absolute war with one another, all you need is something like the 1960s.

While a review of the same book by Arnold Kling says Tuschman is engaged in confirmation bias:

Overall, the pattern is that for Tuschman, every evil of conservatives is essential, by which I mean that it follows directly from the conservative point of view. On the other hand, every evil of the left is accidental, meaning that it occurs in spite of what leftists believe.

Tuschman’s account does sound very similar to other such analyses.

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Big Bang Evidence

Very significant new evidence today of the so-called ‘inflation’ of the universe in the very tiny moments after the beginning.

Phil Plait has a good overview of today’s announcement about direct evidence for inflation in the very early universe, just after the Big Bang.

Cosmic News: Astronomers Find the Twisted Fingerprints of Inflation in the Background Glow of the Universe

It’s all pretty abstruse, he admits. Yet…

But what does this meant to you? Well, that’s up to you, of course. Most of us can live our daily lives without worrying overly much about gravitational waves, subatomic particles, or what the Universe was like in the tiniest sliver of the first moment of its existence.

But think about that: We can understand what the Universe was like in the tiniest sliver of the first moment of its existence! These aren’t wild guesses, or just-so stories, or fanciful myths. This work is the result of an intense amount of research, the application of math, science, physics, and technology over hundreds of years, the painstaking acquisition of knowledge that must withstand the fires of scientific scrutiny and skepticism to survive. And so far, they have.

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God and Morality

The US is an outlier among nations whose peoples believe that belief in God is essential to morality.

http://www.alternet.org/belief/no-you-dont-need-god-be-good-person

The trend across the world is mirrored within the US:

Not coincidentally, led again by Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas, nine of the top 10 poorest states are also found in the South, while northern and pacific states such as Wisconsin, Washington, California, New York, New Hampshire, and Vermont are among the least religious and the most economically prosperous.

As I’ve commented before, the idea that you need God or the Bible to be moral does not withstand a simple reality-check — there are vast areas of the world full of people who do not subscribe the Christianity and the Bible, and are they immoral? Are their societies rank with the kind of chaos that the faithful think is the result of not being religious? …No they are not.

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Truth-Claims?

Jerry Coyne links to Sam Harris’ characterization of Christianity, in a long exchange with Nature science writer Philip Ball.

There are more polite versions of this, but for anyone who did not grow up with this narrative and is an outsider to Christianity’s central story, this is a good take on why it seems so outlandish.

In its most generic and well-subscribed form, Christianity amounts to the following claims: Jesus Christ, a carpenter by trade, was born of a virgin, ritually murdered as a scapegoat for the collective sins of his species, and then resurrected from death after an interval of three days. He promptly ascended, bodily, to “heaven” — where, for two millennia, he has eavesdropped upon (and, on occasion, even answered) the simultaneous prayers of billions of beleaguered human beings. Not content to maintain this numinous arrangement indefinitely, this invisible carpenter will one day return to earth to judge humanity for its sexual indiscretions and sceptical doubts, at which time he will grant immortality to anyone who has had the good fortune to be convinced, on Mother’s knee, that this baffling litany of miracles is the most important series of truth-claims ever revealed about the cosmos. Every other member of our species, past and present, from Cleopatra to Einstein, no matter what his or her terrestrial accomplishments, will (probably) be consigned to a fiery hell for all eternity.

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Political parties, religion, and individualism

Connor Wood at Science on Religion writes about current social and political trends and where libertarians fall in the republican-democratic spectrum, and how both of those parties may be splitting into factions.

Big changes are coming to politics in America. Here’s why

And which of these factions finds religion the most appealing.

A communitarian theory of religion explains this uncomfortable dynamic: less-privileged groups are often more religious because religion is the tool that creates in-person communities most efficiently, with minimum cognitive overhead –- allowing people without a lot of free time or extra energy on their hands to focus most on what matters in life. It does so by using tools like ritual, evocative symbols, and established traditions to ensure that everyone fulfills their obligations to the collective and to each other.

This is why, as I’ve written before, it takes tremendous subsidies coming from such large-scale systems to make individualism – of either the supposedly conservative, libertarian kind or the liberal variety — tenable. Individualism, which both liberals and libertarians value so highly, does not exist outside wealthy democracies. Even within such democracies, it is usually limited to those groups with most access to education and economic resources. And because of this, many of the traditionalists and social conservatives who reject individualism do so, in part, because individualism would be an utterly disastrous bet for themselves and their families.

With a link to moralfoundations.org and its outline of the five or six foundations of moralities. And YourMorals.org, where you can take quizzes and contribute to research.

Wood explores relationships between religion and societal status — that’s his thesis, apparently, in grad school — and they correspond with other commentaries I’ve read that associate atheism — a rational, science-based worldview that rejects not just one faith tradition but all of them — with the relative privilege and luxury of advanced societies, and in large cities, where community cohesiveness is not a priority. Is this entirely true, I wonder? It seems to be true for many European countries, especially the northern ones, where religious faith is low and standards of living on various scales are very high. The US, and China, seems to be the outliers in this trend.

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A Fellow Heir of Carl Sagan

Via Friendly Atheist, this post of a Tale of a lapsed Christian who grew up in a household that mocked Carl Sagan when the first Cosmos series was aired.

In my childhood home, Carl Sagan was a fundamentalist caricature of science. He was a figure of scorn and mockery, conjured in conversation only when one needed a large and easy target for pillorying evolution. … As the product of a mostly terrific private school education, I never had to worry about encountering something like Sagan’s “Cosmos” in my school science classes. A literal reading of the book of Genesis, including a six-day creation, 6,000-year-old Earth, and a historic Noah and Tower of Babel, constituted our learning of cosmic and human origins. Evolution was a dreadful ploy spat up from the pit of hell, with which the world’s scientists were in complete collusion.

It was reading Sagan’s novel Contact in later years that triggered his uncertainty that his faith provided all the answers.

But the questions festered, continuing to grow and feeding off my neglect, until they were too large to ignore. I could not be intellectually honest and continue to ignore them. They demanded a verdict.

I did not abandon my faith because I was hurt or angry or disillusioned. I did not abandon my faith because I wanted to rebel, or live a life of sin, or refuse god’s authority. I left because I could no longer believe. I left because I felt there simply was no convincing evidence for my belief. I left because my faith insulted reason one too many times. I left because once I applied the same level of skepticism and incredulity to Christianity that I always had to all other faiths, it likewise imploded. Once I accepted that the Bible’s account of cosmic and human origins could not possibly be true, I began to realize that it was just the first in an interminably long line of things the Bible was wrong about.

Science killed my faith. Not “science,” the perverse parody invented by some Christians — a nefarious, liberal, secular agenda whose sole purpose is to turn people from god — but rather science, an objective, methodological tool that uses reason and evidence to systematical study the world around us, and which is willing, unlike faith, to change direction with the accumulation of that evidence. Science is a humble and humbling exercise. Science is the impossibly dense core of curiosity — always asking, always seeking, always yearning to know more, never satisfied.

This, for me, is Sagan’s most enduring legacy — this realization that science is the most emotional journey imaginable. Science does not castrate awe or inhibit transcendence — science unleashes it.

As I alluded in a previous post, Carl Sagan’s Cosmos was not so much a life changer for me as a confirmation of the path I was already on, via Isaac Asimov, astronomy texts, and others. I had a very mild religious upbringing, and at some point I will spell out those early experiences and how they did or did not influence my mature thinking.

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